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Posithôt
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Where Anti-Matter and Industry
collide…
and revolutionize the Non-Destructive Quality Control Standards |
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Posithôt 2023
The generator of
Posithôt, also named the « gun ». Inside
this mysterious black box stands a micro accelerator which delivers a
continuous beam of positrons - the anti-particles of electrons. Anti
matter is now available on Earth and comes out in compact casing !
Industrial clients are going to be happy !
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There have been times none believed
anti-matter could exist, until mankind discovered it in cosmic rays
then created anti-particles in accelerators. From that time on
speculations grew hard upon what could be done with those strange
particles coming out of nowhere. Success came when physicists choose to
use them to probe our existing matter, with astonishing results! As
matter annihilates anti-matter when they meet, anti-matter shows an
incredible ability to live a little longer when it flies through matter
voids revealing by the way all matter defects. Anti-matter spectroscopy
was born and became for some time a curiosity in the lab: the thing
able to see the holes in the full. Then came Posithôt, a special
instrument based on positron emission - and a spin-off of the French
nuclear research administration (CEA) - which was designed to allow
engineers to probe matter vacancies and map out cracks in advanced
materials and cutting-edge parts. A real industrial tool delivering a
constant beam of anti-particles for steady quality control that would
make our technological world safer! And the good news is that this
anti-particle generator is very compact and non-radioactive when out of
duty - which in turn allows an easy servicing in the dead times.
ConsultingNewsLine has met
Jean Michel Rey and Pierre Bregeault of Posithôt to know more
about this brand-new high technology…
ConsultingNewsLine:
Jean-Michel Rey, Pierre Bregeault, Thank you to welcome us at
Posithôt for a visit to the first compact and non-radioactive
positron generator available for industrial control on a routine basis.
Where does that technology come from and how does it work is my
question to get started. Probably Jean-Michel Rey, who is the Head
physicist of the team, would like to answer ?
Jean Michel Rey : For
sure. Posithôt develops the industrial applications of a
spectroscopy based on the annihilation of positrons (positons in
French). And positrons are the anti-particles of the electrons, as
anticipated by Dirac in 1928 through his famous equation and soon
discovered by Carl Anderson in cosmic rays in 1932. Positrons
features and especially their mass and charge were precisely measured
by French physicist Jean Thibaud as early as 1933. And clearly the
positrons appeared to be the anti-particles of the electron: same mass
but positive charge ! In 1934 Frédéric and
Irène Joliot-Curie bombarded aluminum foils with alpha particles
(emitted by polonium) which resulted in Phosphorus 15 a radio-isotope
which emits positrons, and incidentally that was the first artificial
radioactivity known so far. Since then, positrons have been created by
different means - initially as transitory species in large particles
accelerators then for lab use with linear proton accelerators and
cyclotrons and also in nuclear reactors. And this is how nowadays
isotopes such as Nitrogen 13, Fluorine 18 or Sodium 22 are made. These
isotopes naturally emit Beta + radiations which are in facts positrons.
However from creating positive electrons to having a sound scientific
and industrial applications the journey has been very long and it must
be understood that what we deal with is anti-matter which makes things
very different because positrons annihilates whenever they encounter
electrons, and matter is full of electron clouds, so they easily
disappear, producing by the way powerful pairs of gamma photons. This
said it is this annihilation that we have profited from as gamma
photons can easily be detected which in turn makes the main concept
behind the positron spectroscopy. What we do here at Posithôt is
basically to detect gamma photons that result from positron
annihilation anytime positrons hit matter. Then we analyze this photon
emission in time and energy in the range 100 eV to 550 000 eV. But we
first have to produce these positrons, and to escape the constraints of
radioactive materials, we have replaced the beta+ emitters by a
non-radioactive accelerator-based positron generator. That is basically
what Posithôt does!
ConsultingNewsLine: What
can be seen through these positron collisions and subsequent photon
analysis ?
Jean Michel Rey :
What can be seen with this apparently destructive effect is - quite the
contrary - a non-destructive observation of matter structure and its
defects. Because the great discovery, the
« miracle » behind - which is the second concept
behind positron spectroscopy - is the fact that the complex trajectory
of positrons in matter, that kind of zig zags of positrons in the
matter, is highly determined by the defects they encounter which very
much increase their life time before annihilation. And this in turn
allows us to probe the micro defects of matter: atom vacancies,
dislocations, cracks, pores... Thus positron spectroscopy is
surprisingly a « defect spectroscopy » and we can
easily imagine the huge scientific and industrial applications
resulting from it...
ConsultingNewsLine: So,
what can those applications be? Pierre Bregeault, Head of marketing and
communication at Posithôt, would you mind telling us a little
more on that topic ?
Pierre Bregeault :
It’s my pleasure. Different kind of materials can be submitted to
positron spectroscopy from metals to polymers. Applications range from
fundamental research to industrial quality control. For each material
choosen the analysis aims at detecting the most characteristic defects.
From the tiniest to the utmost structured ones. These defects can be
displaced atoms in nuclear fuels and claddings submitted to intense
radiation in nuclear reactors. It can also be atom vacancies or
dislocations in semiconductor wafers, a difficult state of things if
you make processors and solar cells for space activity. It can also be
cracks and percolating networks of such cracks in metal parts for which
any break up becomes critical to safe operations, which is the case for
jet engine compressor blades, helicopter turbines and rotors, airframes
and aircraft metal fittings. Same for drive shafts in marine
applications, drill pipes and roller bits for oil exploration, wind and
water turbine shafts for wind farms and offshore power production…
Anytime parts are critical to passenger safety, equipment security or
continuity and rate of industrial activity in harsh environment and
remote locations defects and crack analysis becomes essential...
and posithôt can do that. So Posithôt is definitively one
of the finest NDT (Non Destructive Testing) technology, and can be
considered as a Metrology regarding its sensitivity.
ConsultingNewsLine :
Can that technology be applied to all serial parts ? I mean,
nowadays we are all using high tech objects that can break anytime,
cell phones, laptops... but so low priced that to high quality control
them, frankly they are not worth it...
Pierre Bregeault : Right.
Positron spectroscopy is mandatory only for cutting edge parts, such as
rocket engines or unique devices fitted in satellites or some new parts
in racing cars. Same for highly priced small series of critical parts
for which a serial control can really be envisioned which is the case
for military industry, large guns and shell manufacturing and will
probably be the case for air taxis, what we call the eVtols, etc... But
for most technologies sold to the average customer it is the
manufacture process that has to be secured. You indicated cell phones.
Some batteries tend to take fire in cell phones but we cannot test all
of them, it’s too expensive. Thus small series of parts made under
specific and variable conditions have to be tested to determine which
process conditions are the best and give the best quality outcome. So
alongside the systematic control of highly critical and highly costly
parts there is room for process evaluation to support the industrial
demand of quality goods for the customer. Another example is drones.
Today small drones as eVitols must not crash in populated areas but
their price is far too low for a systematic control of all their parts
upon costly tests, so what we do propose is the optimization of the
critical parts manufacturing process, for batteries, magnets, shafts,
bearings etc... This is where Posithôt can also provide a
superior support.
ConsultingNewsLine: The
materials mentioned so far were mostly solid, rodlike or coming as
foils… Are powders also eligible for positron spectroscopy ?
Pierre Bregeault : Definitively
yes, even if sometimes it’s a little more tricky, and this is mainly
the case for the chemical industry where most reactants come as powders
and especially for heterogeneous catalysis for which the specific
surface area of pores can be measured as well as the open fraction of
the pores to the outside of the seeds which is decisive for an
efficient catalysis.
ConsultingNewsLine: and we
all know that catalysts in refinery units can cost up to hundred of
millions euros for a single replacement batch. Catalysts duration and
efficiency often determine operating costs...
Pierre Bregeault : Absolutely
and the ROI, the return on investment is what we focus on with
potential clients.
Jean Michel Rey : Before
we land in the economic part of the job I would like to add a
scientific view on that point of porosity. Porous materials are not
only the case of catalysts but also that of batteries and fuel cells
electrodes or that of hydrides for hydrogen storage, and same for
desalination membranes. And it can be demonstrated that
independent pores on one side, linked pores on the other side and pores
open up to the outside all give a different signal when analyzed in
time and energy by positron spectroscopy. So we can discriminate them
and better know the structure of the material and its ability to
interact with a gas or a liquid, which is the core of all chemical
processes. That makes Posithôt a formidable tool to study and
control new materials in electronics, opto-electronics,
electro-chemistry, chemistry and power supply. Especially at a time we
discover new materials nearly every days and produce older ones with
new textures at a high rate. Think of polycrystalline or porous silicon
for instance, Gallium arsenide, multilayered semiconductors, zeolites,
ceramics polymer membranes and composites...
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The complete Posithôt apparatus, with its positron generator, its
beam lines fitted with two experiments chambers plus the control
command room. All parts are accessible for the operator, even when the
generator is on, the radiation being strictly confined inside the
shielding of the generator
ConsultingNewsLine: What about 3D printing?
Pierre Bregeault : This
is a new field of activity with a lot of opportunities. Industrial
prototypes as well as small part series can be made this way. In the
automotive sector and the aerospace metallic parts made by 3D printing
- most done by metal powder sintering - defaults can occur and porosity
can impair the resulting parts. Positron spectroscopy can also here
prove valuable to detect these impairments. So this is absolutely a new
domain of investigation for Posithôt.
ConsultingNesLine: Thus we
can use positron spectroscopy to study new materials and their
porosity. But let me be the devil’s advocate. We have already numerous
technologies to probe defects in matter, Gas Adsorption, Die Penetrant
Testing, Eddy currents, Ellipsometry, Ultrasound Imagery, Electron and
X-ray Spectroscopies... What makes Positron spectroscopy a better
technology and the new tool for the 21rst century?
Jean Michel Rey :
The different technologies you mention are for a few ones only usable
for surface analysis, such as gas adsorption, die penetrant testing,
eddy currents or ellipsometry. For the other ones used for bulk
analysis or relying on electrons beams, they are destructive when used
in the energy range necessary for the observation of the finest
defects. For ultrasound imagery or K rays which have a very low
resolution, it cannot even probe the smallest defects. So in the
defects scale we are interested in which starts from small holes
lacking a million atoms down to only one atom - in other words a simple
lattice vacancy - clearly positron spectroscopy is the only non-
destructive technology (NDT) available. It also shows an easy
handling despite a more complex computer data treatment.
ConsultingNesLine :
Easy handling is generally a euphemism for nuclear technologies. Could
you tell us more on how you generate your positrons, carry out your
experiments and why the whole device gives superior results and easy
handling ?
Jean Michel Rey : Posithôt
is a very compact positron generator in which we accelerate electrons
with microwaves and let them interact subsequently with a target
crystal which nucleus deviate strongly the fast electrons that come too
close to them. This leads to a strong gamma photon emission due the
deceleration of the electrons, what is referred to as
« bremstrahlung » in physics with a German word,
namely a radiation of breaking, which can lead to the spontaneous
emission of electron – positron pairs whenever the photons energy is
over 1,2 Mev, which is the exact energy threshold to create a pair of
particles-anti-particles according to the equation of relativity
E=mc2. Once we have positrons we can separate them from electrons
as they don’t bare the same electrical charge, and select their energy.
This is done through electrostatic and magnetic filters and collimators
which are basic devices of particles physics. This said the whole
device and the guidelines that carry the positrons to the experiment
chamber must work under a perfect vacuum. But this is also standard.
This complete technology is unique and has been subject to patenting.
ConsultingNesLine: So you
produce gamma rays within the positron generator and ultimately you
will also get some gamma rays to detect your positron annihilation in
the experiment chamber.
Jean Michel Rey : Exactly
and this is why the generator is surrounded by lead plates and concrete
walls when it operates. But the good news is that there is no nuclear
reaction nor any neutron radiation involved in the process. Thus once
the experiment is over and the generator stopped all the high energy
photons disappear. We don’t have any radioactivity or activated
material left in the device and the generator. It is nuclear free. We
can then handle it with no special protection in the dead time. It is
as easy as maintaining an X-ray spectrometer.
ConsultingNewsLine: And
you guarantee that these are the same safe conditions as in the
experiment chamber ?
Jean Michel Rey : Provided
that you are not working on radioactive materials it is the same. We
inject low energy positrons into the samples under experimentation and
detect the gamma photons emerging at wavelength (~ 500 Kev) for which
they don’t interact with nucleus (threshold at 1 Mev) or core electrons
(X-ray energy), so we don’t have the least nuclear reaction nor X-ray
fluorescence in the sample under experimentation and the only
limitation is to protect the operators from the gamma ray itself during
the experiment and the positrons or photo-electrons that could escape
but which are easily stopped by the metallic casing. So this technology
is clearly fully non-destructive, for the sample, easy to handle for
the experimentalist, and can probe micro defects in the range 1 to 10
power 6
atoms that are critical for cracks initialization in metals or to start
semi-conductors impairment. So if some classical technologies will
continue to be used for common defects on the surface or for large
cracks in the bulk, the positron spectroscopy will be the ultimate
weapon to detect as early as possible the finest ones, far before they
crosslink and make a deadly network. So Posithôt is the only
technology available today to see the most critical defects in
mechanical parts or electronics materials which makes it absolutely
strategic in our high-tech world and a world of intense mass
transportation. It’s a cutting-edge technology.
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Example of a data string recorded by Posithôt : The damage
parameter
profile of a superalloy used for space applications.
The parameter measured as a function of depth shows the consequences of
the stress level applied to the samples during a fatigue test. It
highlights open microcracks below the surface.
ConsultingNewsLine : A
cutting edge technology that comes at a high price. How much does it
cost in fact ? And what is the Posithôt ROI ? Pierre
Bregeault...
Pierre Bregeault : Posithôt
in the configuration you see today costs approximately 3 million euros.
And for a commercial machine, fitted with an adapted experiment
chamber, fully operational on the client’s site, we would be closer to
3,5 million euros, this including building work and team training. For
operations on the client’s site we are currently thinking of renting
the device with its crew as was done at the time of main frame
computers provision. Different kind of contracts could be proposed from
hiring to leasing. It must be understood that this kind of machine,
which a new one will soon be installed in a truck, requires a high
level of operability to be profitable. A string of data costs from 5000
euros to 50 000 euros, depending on the complexity, comparable
with medical imagery. And for research as well as industrial
application it must be considered days of work at the price of
engineering. So we thing big corporations could profit from it as well
as small enterprises grouped in syndicate labs. Same for fundamental
research and R&D for which joint facilities could be developed, and
this all over the world as this technology is unique. In term of ROI we
can provide potential clients with assessments depending on their
business processes.
ConsultingNewsLine: Again
I will try to be the devil’s advocate. Faced with such a significant
cost, could we try to perform positron spectroscopy with simpler
technologies such as radioactive sources as it is done for medical PET
Scans. You mentioned N13, F18 and Na22 Beta + sources at the beginning
of this interview.
Jean Michel Rey : This
is an old fashioned way to do positron spectroscopy, even if for
medical use with PET scan it is of the highest interest. But let’s face
this natural contender. The use of radio-isotopes, which means
materials whose radioactivity decreases between experiments and also
during the experiments themselves makes it unsuitable for precise and
repetitive industrial applications. For medical ones about 10
artificial radionuclides such as Carbon 11, Nitrogen 13 or Oxygen 15
are used among which Fluorine 18 is the most commonly selected
(95 %.) They all are short-lived positron emitting radio-isotopes
[11C (T1⁄2 = 20.4 min), 13N (T1⁄2 = 10 min), 15O (T1⁄2 = 2 min)] and
for the mentioned Fluorine 18 which half-life is only 2 minutes,
suitable for Positron Emission Tomography (PET Scan) but far too short
for precise material analysis, the wrong thing is that they are all
produced using irradiation of natural targets, thus generating
radioactive wastes. This mean you need a synchrotron or linear
accelerator to accelerate your protons which is not only a complicated
way to make short lived species but also a far more costly process than
to get a positron beam with the Posithôt generator. And for
longer lived radioisotopes such as Zr 89 (T1⁄2 = 58H) it is not any
better as you also need a proton source (and for some radio-isotopes a
nuclear reactor). Same for Na22 used in labs to perform positron
irradiation. So in our development scheme, before embarking on the
« electron to photon to positron » way used by
Posithôt to produce high flow of positrons we have compared all
the different ways of producing positrons and Posithôt proved to
be the most efficient and the cheapest one to deliver strong and steady
beams for industrial use. And we succeeded in making it
compact.
ConsultingNewsLine: As this interview comes
to its end I would like to thank you for this introduction to the
Posithôt technology and perhaps try to use the remaining time to
know a little more on Posithôt as an enterprise, its goals for
the future and also its first successes.
Jean Michel Rey : Posithôt
is a private company, a spin-off of the CEA (French nuclear
administration) which aims at building, commercializing and providing
services around the Posithôt technology. It is 10,5 % owned
by CEA and the rest by private shareholders among which the creators of
the technology. We are located on the Les Ulis Techno Park, so very
close to the Saclay nuclear center and the scientific compound of Orsay
and Saclay plateau, a quarter of and hour away from Orly Airport and
Toussus Le Noble business airfield and an hour away from downtown Paris
by fast regional trains or the highway. Today we have strong relations
with Safran, Nexter, the Ariane group, and the CNES (French Space
administration) and have already won contracts with the French Ministry
of Defense. A second positron emitter is foreseen for portable use on a
truck and we hope to sell a few ones in the near future. But as already
said, providing services in the broadest sense is what we aim to
deliver, be it by implementing Posithôt in large corporations and
providing in-house support, or subcontracting tests in our own premises
or developing joint facilities for research institutes and business
combinations.
Pierre Bregeault :
And if we had to help your readers keep just one idea in mind it would
be that Posithôt really is the new tool for the new century,
compact, non-radioactive, with high and steady flow, able to provide
unprecedented access to the microstructure of defects in materials and
thus to bring superior nondestructive testing (NDT), quality control
and prevention control and in a broader sense able to help them or
their clients to secure what has become paramount to industrial
activity : the MRO, Maintenance, Repair and Operations and
the MCO for critical operations, retro processing and retro composition.
Words collected by
Bertrand Villeret
Chief Editor, ConsultingNewsLine
bvilleret2@aol.com
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Contacts: Jean-Michel REY
Jean-michel.rey@posithot.com
www.posithot.com
Pierre Bregeault
pierre.bregeault@posithot.com
https://www.posithot.com
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